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This page is for discussing various features on the G.E.C.K. Wiki. Please add new topics of discussion to the top of the page, with its own secondary header (== | This page is for discussing various features on the G.E.C.K. Wiki. Please add new topics of discussion to the top of the page, with its own secondary header (example: == Header ==). | ||
= Active Discussions = | = Active Discussions = | ||
Below are currently active discussions. | Below are currently active discussions. | ||
== Translations == | |||
[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] pointed me here when I spotted some reverts of translations done in the Beth tutorials, and suggested that the translations could be useful. | |||
Trouble was, the translations that were there, were done in completely the wrong way: replacing the text, rather than being parallel documents. If the facility existed for proper translations, that would be much cooler. So, yeah - suggesting that translation systems be turned on, if that's possible. | |||
My arguments for this (from my talk with Qazaaq): "With translators, getting just one on the job tends to attract an entire country of helpers. They're like helper-magnets! And those helpers don't just focus on the translated pages: as they translate from English, they fix up the English pages too. Much good fan-juice." | |||
I can think of at least one counterargument though: It's hard to police pages in other languages, if the admins don't speak them. [[User:DewiMorgan|DewiMorgan]] 22:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Usually Wikis do this with Language links - you may have noticed that there is [en.wikipedia.org], [fr.wikipedia.org], [jp.wikipedia.org], etc etc - one for several languages. Then pages have links on the side bar for "This page in other languages". These are standard Wiki features which could be turned on if Bethesda wished to. | |||
:If there is ''actual'' interest in translating pages, I'll talk to GStaff about it. Unfortunately, at least thus far, the "translators" have all been vandals more than anything. None of them (and there have been a few) have responded to questions or suggestions, so I don't really know what to say. If anyone posts here with intent to do some translations, though, I'll be happy to ask Gstaff about it. | |||
:[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] · [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] · 23:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: Hrm - if it's a common problem, I find it hard to imagine a mind that could think it entertaining to make a translation that they know will be immediately reverted, though. Hrm. I wonder if... maybe there's someone out there making a site for Italians, and publishing the translated page here and copying it is the easiest way for them? Or maybe they are just linking to the pages in the history, and not caring that they are reverted? I can't find anything in Google matching the translated pages, so those are just guesses. | |||
:: *I'm* interested. Just not capable :P But while I have effectively zero language skills, I do believe translations are a Good Thing, and I'd be interested in resurrecting any reverted translations I could find onto an "it.*" or "es.*" or whatever domain, if it'd be something that mere users could do. Since the site currently has only 500 pages > 400 bytes, even a half-dozen translated pages are a significant resource, and especially of the main tutorials, would really give non-first-language English speakers a running start with modding. | |||
:: Whatever the reasons they're made, it seems the translations are accurately done (though I know only the barest schoolboy Italian), and Beth has rights to use them as they were published on this site. "Interest" doesn't need to be shown, since the pages already exist: just interest on GStaff's part in allowing those pages to be made available without people having to trawl through history logs. | |||
:: I suspect it'd also be an amusing way to break whatever the vandal-translators are trying to do, since if they're trying to make a mirror site in another language, having that same stuff on the official site will suck hits from their unofficial mirror, and make all their work in vain. *evil grin* [[User:DewiMorgan|DewiMorgan]] 15:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Function links to CS wiki == | == Function links to CS wiki == | ||
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::::Qazaaq, that sounds great. That template should help with a lot of things. | ::::Qazaaq, that sounds great. That template should help with a lot of things. | ||
::::[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] · [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] · 15:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | ::::[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] · [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] · 15:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::Maybe just personal preference, but as a new user I find the links very useful indeed, and I suggest (plead?) that they be left in place even once the articles are ported over: I've noticed "ported" pages get "unlinked" :( But then, if I want to see the differences between the two systems, or to make sure there's nothing recently added there that hasn't been added here, or check out their talk pages to see if they've covered some fine point, or etc etc, then I need to go there and ''search for the page''. | |||
:::::It's a whole lot more convenient to have the link right there, and the clearly-different wiki skins means I'm never confused about which pages I'm looking at. It's great having this whole "other layer" of historical information to explore, mapped onto the current one, but clearly separated by the different sites. I feel CS Wiki links are probably the most relevant external link that could be added to any page. I only wish the links went the other way, too. [[User:DewiMorgan|DewiMorgan]] 00:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::As I said above, I'd like to leave the links to CS Wiki here as well. I didn't notice they were gone on the copied pages, they shouldn't have been. A change like that should have been discussed here. Anyone who removes them in the future should be notified and the missing links should be replaced. | |||
::::::Putting links on the CS Wiki sounds like a job for the bot, but I don't know if the CAPTCHA protection prevents it from adding external links. | |||
::::::--[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] 11:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
= Inactive Discussions = | = Inactive Discussions = | ||
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